| MR WILSON: |
Down in Canberra they have erect the Magna Carta monument. Have you been to see it? You will not answer? Mr Callinan, have you seen it?
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| CALLINAN J: |
Look, you cannot really ask me questions, but, yes, I did see it, Mr Wilson.
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| MR WILSON: |
Well, this is a two-way thing, you were asking me questions and I am asking you.
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| GUMMOW J: |
No, it is not a two-way thing, actually.
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| MR WILSON: |
It is not?
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| GUMMOW J: |
No.
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| MR WILSON: |
You are a dictator, are you?
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| GUMMOW J: |
No.
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| MR WILSON: |
“You just lay down and I say nothing.”
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| GUMMOW J: |
No.
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| MR WILSON: |
It is not on.
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| GUMMOW J: |
No, you are here to make your submissions on which we then rule.
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| MR WILSON: |
Yes.
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| GUMMOW J: |
We try to assist you by asking questions so that you can respond to what is on our mind.
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| MR WILSON: |
Your job - - -
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| GUMMOW J: |
Do not lecture us on what our job is, please.
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| MR WILSON: |
Your job is to ensure fairness.
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| GUMMOW J: |
No, it is not.
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| MR WILSON: |
It is not?
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| GUMMOW J: |
It is to apply justice, according to law.
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| MR WILSON: |
And what is justice? Justice is the protection of rights and the punishment of wrongs and justice is what I am after. Justice means - - -
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| GUMMOW J: |
Justice, according to law. |
